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Is Now The Best Time To Buy Property In Australia?
56m

Jul 20, 2026

Is Now The Best Time To Buy Property In Australia?

Welcome to the No BS Property Show a series within Bothsides, where we sit down to talk property, investing, and everything you need to actually succeed in the Australian market... straight up, no filter, no bullsh$*#. If you love property, want to learn how to actually invest, or just want to understand what's really happening in the market, this is for you. In this episode, Daniel Beardall and Josh Yun go through a federal budget that gutted negative gearing and the capital gains discount, a Senate deal that just banned SMSFs from borrowing to buy residential property, and a first-home buyer scheme the government insists isn't moving prices, even as suburbs across NSW post double-digit drops. They explain: ▪ Why the 5% deposit scheme pushed entry-level prices up before the market corrected ▪ The exact numbers behind Australia's 40-year property growth cycle — and why this dip doesn't break the pattern ▪ The $15.85M house that resold for $8.35M, and what it means for the government's own tax revenue ▪ Why the SMSF lending ban is, in their words, "the most nonsensical thing" to come out of the budget ▪ The live, off-market deal they're chasing right now — and why urgency from sellers is the buyer's biggest advantage ▪ Why they believe "the government hates us being in control of our own money" ▪ Why they're personally selling investment properties to buy their own homes in this exact window ▪ What actually makes a property "bulletproof" versus one that's about to get caught out If you're trying to figure out whether now is the time to buy, sell, or just sit tight, this is the conversation that actually walks through the real numbers behind the headlines. 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:44 New Financial Year, New Government Headaches 00:02:49 The 5% Deposit Scheme "Lie" And The $100K Overnight Price Jump 00:04:34 The 40-Year Growth Graph — And Why This Dip Doesn't Break The Pattern 00:07:49 "The Greens Had A Great Idea" — Cutting Grandfathering Next? 00:10:55 The $15.85M House That Just Sold For $8.35M 00:14:12 Selling Investments To Buy Owner-Occupier Now 00:17:44 The Case For Using A Buyer's Agent Right Now 00:21:50 History Repeating: 1985–87, New Zealand, And "Mums And Dads" 00:23:16 The Government's Broken 0.2% Promise 00:28:53 "Right Now Is The Time To Strike" 00:31:27 Inside A Live Off-Market Deal: The Divorce Sale 00:34:04 The Acreage Property That Dropped 25% — Still No Buyers 00:41:23 The SMSF Ban: "The Government Hates Us Being In Control Of Our Own Money" 00:47:03 What Actually Makes A Good Property — And Why Now Might Be The Best Time To Buy 00:56:02 Outro

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Emil Juresic: "The Market Has Already Dropped 10 To 30%" And More Pain Is Coming
1h 6m

Jul 13, 2026

Emil Juresic: "The Market Has Already Dropped 10 To 30%" And More Pain Is Coming

Emil Juresic sold every property he owned five months before Australia's housing market turned. Now he's revealing the exact prediction that got him out at the peak, why he believes there's more pain still coming, and the uncomfortable philosophy on pain, mortality, and self-honesty that built his 500-person company. Emil Juresic is the founder of NGU Real Estate and Level X, and co-founder of One Life Club alongside Simon Beard. Originally from Croatia, he moved to Australia at 16 and has spent two decades building a property, finance, and wellness empire from nothing. He explains: ▪ Why he sold every property he owned at what he believed was the peak of the market ▪ His prediction that Australian property could still fall 10-30%, and why he thinks the pain isn't over ▪ Why established, older properties are a better buy right now than anything brand new ▪ The health scare at 45 that nearly made him retire, and how it led to a $100M wellness bet ▪ Why he believes pain should be your best friend in business, not something to avoid ▪ The mortality question he asks every business owner: if you died tomorrow, would your family be okay? ▪ The line from a 30-year-old letter his uncle sent him that he still uses to check himself today 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:38 Catching Up At Emil's New Home 00:03:01 The Viral Reel & Selling Everything At The Peak 00:06:56 Proof The Market Has Already Dropped 00:08:35 What Happens Next — AI, Unemployment & More Pain Coming 00:10:07 Why Established Property Beats Brand New Right Now 00:18:21 Pivoting Into Health & Wellness — The Level X Story 00:25:15 The Health Scare At 45 That Changed Everything 00:28:38 Building The First Level X & Where He's Investing Now 00:30:46 Was The Sacrifice Worth It? 00:33:00 If You Died Tomorrow, Would Your Family Be Okay? 00:36:29 "Pain Is Gonna Be Your New Best Friend" 00:38:19 Scaling A Business Without Cracking Under Pressure 00:41:03 Why "Follow Your Passion" Is Delusional — The Lucky Sperm Speech 00:44:55 "Valuations Are Horseshit" & 47 And Just Warming Up 00:50:01 The Persistence That Built Everything 00:54:24 Business Is A Lonely Game — Lessons From 200 Interviews 00:58:03 The Bigger The Vision, The Bigger The Mountain 01:01:23 Look Yourself In The Mirror — The 30-Year-Old Letter 01:05:47 Outro

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Every Australian Needs To See THIS - Graeme Holm
1h 47m

Jul 8, 2026

Every Australian Needs To See THIS - Graeme Holm

Australia's property market just went through its biggest overnight shift in years. In this episode, Grame Holm, a leading voice in Australian property and finance, breaks down what actually happened after the Federal Budget - how the banks moved on valuations almost instantly, why one client's property lost $250,000 in value overnight, and why he believes this is the exact moment to act, not retreat. Graeme Holm is a mortgage broker and motivational speaker, with years of experience helping everyday Aussies navigate the property market through booms, corrections, and policy shocks. He regularly shares data-driven insights on where the Australian property market is heading next. The views shared in this episode are personal opinions and general in nature - they do not constitute financial advice and should not be relied upon without speaking to a licensed professional about your own circumstances. He explains: ■ Why the banks changed their valuations almost overnight after the Budget ■ How one client's property dropped from $850,000 to $600,000 in months ■ Why consumer sentiment is at rock bottom - and why that's historically the buying signal, not the warning sign ■ The 40 years of data showing Australia has never had two consecutive years of price correction ■ Why Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway just made a multi-billion dollar bet on residential housing ■ The difference between what's happening to established homes vs. new builds right now ■ Why timing the exact bottom of the market has cost investors more than it's ever saved them 🎁 We've now given away $175,000 to our listeners across this podcast series - and we're not done. Subscribe to both Bothsides and Money Mentor on Spotify or YouTube, share your favourite episode from each on your socials tagging us, and send us a screenshot - 5 people will win $5,000 each once we hit $200,000 given away.

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The $1B Blueprint: How to Scale Any Business, Build a Winning Team & Never Chase a Lead Again
1h 12m

Jun 3, 2026

The $1B Blueprint: How to Scale Any Business, Build a Winning Team & Never Chase a Lead Again

Stephen and Jonathan built one of Australia's top finance businesses from nothing — no ads, no cold outreach, just relentless service and a system most people never figure out. They now write over $1.1 billion in loans a year, and in this episode they explain exactly how they did it. But this isn't just a finance conversation. It's a masterclass in scaling a business, building a team that performs without you, and creating the kind of customer experience that makes marketing irrelevant. Whether you're in real estate, sales, running your own business, or just thinking about your next property move — there's something here for you. In this episode: ◾ Why the founders became the biggest bottleneck in their own business — and the leap of faith that fixed it ◾ The "reverse mullet" sales method: how to listen your way to more deals in any industry ◾ How the wealthy buy property before they sell — and why most people don't know this is even possible ◾ Why salary beats commission for building a team that actually cares about customers ◾ The single piece of advice from a Westpac banker that shaped everything (learned at age 19) ◾ What developers need to know right now as the banks return to the market 0:00 Intro 1:37 Suitesides 1:45 Meet Stephen & Jonathan from Catalyst 2:49 How They Wrote Over $1 Billion in Loans 5:20 Breaking the Founder Bottleneck 6:20 Why They Pay Salespeople a Salary Not Commission 7:40 Building a Culture Where Everyone Wins Together 10:17 How to Incentivise a Sales Team Without Losing Hunger 12:13 Remove the Admin, Unlock Your Team's Potential 14:25 The Two Things That Keep Great Staff From Leaving 17:44 Why the Best Person in the Room Changes Everything 19:35 What's Actually Happening in the Market Right Now 21:33 Bridging Loans Explained Simply 23:11 How Bridging Loans Work (With Real Numbers) 26:22 The $26 Million Bridge Deal 28:14 The Plan to Build the Next Generation of Top Performers 29:08 How to Build a Referral Business Without Marketing 30:01 How to Start From Zero and Build Something Real 33:30 Treat Every Lead Like It's Fragile 36:42 Knowledge Builds Trust — Trust Builds Business 38:25 What Actually Makes a Great Salesperson 41:54 The Real Sacrifices Behind Top 1% Success 44:57 Niche Down or Learn Everything? 48:06 The "Reverse Mullet" Sales Technique 55:39 Development Finance: Banks Are Back 1:00:00 How to Run the Perfect Sales Conversation 1:03:36 The Deals That Made Us 1:07:38 How to Outthink the Competition for Your Client

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Graya: How Two Brothers Are Quietly Dominating Australian Property
1h 34m

May 18, 2026

Graya: How Two Brothers Are Quietly Dominating Australian Property

They started with a hammer and a dream… now property developers Andrew & Rob Gray reveal how they built a $1.5 billion pipeline from the ground up, and why the Gold Coast is just the beginning. Andrew Gray is a qualified quantity surveyor who learned the property industry from his father's business before co-founding Graya. Rob Gray completed his carpentry apprenticeship, obtained his builder's licence, and brings unmatched construction expertise. Together they have grown Graya to 125 staff with landmark developments across Brisbane and the Gold Coast, including The Cloud Project in Palm Beach. They explain: ▪️ How they went from a deck renovation business in 2012 to a $1.5 billion development pipeline ▪️ Why Palm Beach is one of the most desirable stretches of coastline in all of Australia ▪️ How their complementary skills, development knowledge and construction knowledge, became their greatest competitive advantage ▪️ Why they refuse to specialise in one sector and what their vertical structure actually looks like ▪️ The mindset behind building legacy projects that still look good in 20 years ▪️ What most developers get wrong about design and longevity ▪️ Why Brisbane and the Gold Coast are the two markets they want to dominate ▪️ What they want people to say about Grayar in 30 years

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$75,000 Cash Given Away To Aussie Families Live
1h 48m

Apr 8, 2026

$75,000 Cash Given Away To Aussie Families Live

Special Easter long weekend drop and yes, you need to listen to the end. EP 146. We're closing out our second series with Graeme Holm and we're ending it the right way. Before we announce our Season 2 Giveaway winners, we're unpacking the biggest lesson from this series: what it actually looks like when a business builds a real community and gives back at a scale most people can't fathom. A $2M Coachella-style Christmas party, 10,000+ presents for kids in need, and over $1M raised for the Salvos. All driven by one principle: give first, always. Graeme and Josh break down why generosity isn't a strategy, it's a standard. And why it doesn't matter if you're turning over 50k or 50 million, the energy always comes back. Oh and the March winners. Don't skip to the end. Trust us, it's worth the wait.

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Founder of Bothsides and Bothsides Buyers Agency. Dan is a buyers agent and commerce finance graduate who built one of Australia’s most recognised real estate media platforms. He brings sharp strategic thinking, lived investment experience, and an obsession with being in the room with the best minds in business, property, and personal development.

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